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  • #31
    Krishnan,

    i don't see your logic too, do you mean if i said some correct words, then all words i say are correct? or you mean if i said something wrong, then all the things i said are rubbish? hehe, so does the CIA, your logic is adsurd.

    ok, maybe china is doing the "blue collar" work, india is nothing better, hehe, do you think java coding is kind of high tech? hehe, does india master the "core technique" of software engineering? you constructed the platform of C++? hehe..., of course NO, software engineering indian are doing is just a labour, nothing else.

    when you tease china by doing "blue collar" work, don't forget china is leading india in nearly all the key techniques. chinese industry is climbing up in the industry chain from the low end to the high end. now china is producing her own self-designed CPU now, china is constructing her own GPS system, "Beidou" system, hehe, "blue collar"? if you don't master the "core technique", you have to do the labour work, but for chinese such a nation, hehe, we have determination, capacity and motivation to outperform all other nations on this earth.

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    • #32
      All chinese are good at is copying...haha

      on this forum are threads selling copied Nike shoes...Nikexxx...:d

      the chinese like this one go outside...steal some ideas ...come home and make a copy....

      oops did i forget to mention the copy fails to perform....
      the GPS made by chinese will only take u to one place...some dungeon like Mao's grave...hahaha
      I 'll show u a new world!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by snower
        Krishnan,

        i don't see your logic too, do you mean if i said some correct words, then all words i say are correct? or you mean if i said something wrong, then all the things i said are rubbish? hehe, so does the CIA, your logic is adsurd.
        Sir, do you really read what you write? Perhaps it is you lack of grasp of the English language and its nuances. Someone who says the truth sometimes is called a liar. Are you saying you pick and choose your facts? Kind Sir, I expect you to be an gentleman and I expect a gentleman to never lie. If you are something less than a gentleman, then by all means continue on your current path.

        Originally posted by snower
        ok, maybe china is doing the "blue collar" work, india is nothing better, hehe, do you think java coding is kind of high tech? hehe, does india master the "core technique" of software engineering? you constructed the platform of C++? hehe..., of course NO, software engineering indian are doing is just a labour, nothing else.

        when you tease china by doing "blue collar" work, don't forget china is leading india in nearly all the key techniques. chinese industry is climbing up in the industry chain from the low end to the high end. now china is producing her own self-designed CPU now, china is constructing her own GPS system, "Beidou" system, hehe, "blue collar"? if you don't master the "core technique", you have to do the labour work, but for chinese such a nation, hehe, we have determination, capacity and motivation to outperform all other nations on this earth.
        Sir, java coding is, in fact, high tech. Making fake Nikes is not. I don't understand what you mean by core techniques.
        I'm not teasing China at all. As a matter of fact, there is a lot that India can learn from China. I pray that India can have a pragmatic leader like Deng, who can put the nation ahead of idiotic notions of their past leaders. I for one want to see China become the great power it rightly deserves to be. But I also think that India and China have a long, long, long way to go. There are more than two and a half billion people counting on the path their leaders take. There are untold billions that are living in poverty. India and China are using two different methods for trying to bring their people from poverty, but the goal is the same. Governments lieing and fabricating is not the way to go, there are just way too many people depending on the truth.

        By the way C++ is not a platform. It can be argued that it is an objected language. More accurately it is a macro pre-processor for the C programming language.
        Last edited by krishnan; 10-27-2006, 03:57 AM.

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        • #34
          hehe, if you say java coding is a high tech, i can only say you really know nothing about science.

          C++ is not a platform? hehe, you dont understand software engineering at all. go to ask somebody know IT better.

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          • #35
            snower the reason why the Chinese live longer because your communist government is trying to make u live longer so that they can make u do more labour work and make more goods made in China and get more money for themselves.

            You know how much more you are forced to work and treated like slave in China in 9 years.

            In India we don't force people to work. So we don't make them live longer by giving them electric shocks like you guys do. We research and through medical advancements we try to increase our life expectancy.

            You know we are like the good guys. YOu are the antagonist.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by India1989
              You know how much more you are forced to work and treated like slave in China in 9 years.
              indian1989, you argued in a different way, hehe, sounds you have to admit that the chinese life expectancy data is true. ok, on this point, you make a true progress.

              but you said chinese are "treated like slave in China", please don't forget chinese salary is higher than indian, if chinese "are treated like slave", how are indian? subslave? hehe...

              see below link for a BBS article for the comparisom of chinese salary and indian salary.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by snower
                indian1989, you argued in a different way, hehe, sounds you have to admit that the chinese life expectancy data is true. ok, on this point, you make a true progress.

                but you said chinese are "treated like slave in China", please don't forget chinese salary is higher than indian, if chinese "are treated like slave", how are indian? subslave? hehe...

                see below link for a BBS article for the comparisom of chinese salary and indian salary.

                http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4436692.stm
                the chinese probably doesn't understand the meaning of the word skilled labor. idiot chinese try to understand that its the common man in china that work like a slave to your communist government.

                CNN recently broadcast a program which showed how chinese workers in nokia's factory work 10 hr shifts there for 1$ per day wages.

                now you understand chinese? your government makes you work like dogs because thats what you are for them. Not humans but dogs...

                See here how your government punishes even those who write something against it on the internet...

                "
                Internet Essayist Li Jianping Sentenced to 2 Years in Prison

                Human Rights in China (HRIC) has learned that Shandong-based dissident Li Jianping has been sentenced to two years in prison, more than half a year after he went to trial and more than 500 days after he was first detained. On October 25, the Zibo City Intermediate People's Court found Li guilty of "incitement to subvert state power" on the basis of articles he wrote that were posted on overseas Web sites
                "

                Is that why you are scared to admit your misery chinese? hahaha...
                poor chinese even if the communist government treats him like a rat he will still have to say I am happy....hahaha

                i can understand why you are in so much pain... my sympathy
                Last edited by Neo; 10-31-2006, 01:55 AM.
                I 'll show u a new world!

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                • #38
                  Neo, sounds you are totally brain washed by western propaganda,

                  let me tell you the reason why i support chinese govt to do this.

                  for china such a huge nation, to catch up with the advanced countries, and share more resource with them, is not easy. because all of these advanced, former colonial countries, like US, UK, france, germany, japan, etc, don't like to share their advantage with new comers, let alone a new comer with a giant size, like china. they will try their best to surpress and detain china. so the process of chinese rise-up is more or less a WAR, not neccessary a hot war, but at least a war in politics, economics, culture and etc.. . in such a war, the most important thing for china is to keep the stability, and have a strong government. the current chinese government is a long-sighted, efficient, well functioned government, this is exactly what the western countries fear. so they try their best to finance somebody in china to attack this government, and try to over throw the government, the 1989 Tiananmen event is a nearly succeed try, but fortunately, the givernment managed to control the situation, otherwise china would have been in a civil war, last for maybe 10 years. you know in china's history such 10-20 years civil wars are very common.

                  i think chinese government did the right thing. ok, maybe you never understand what i mean. it's hard for you to understand my thought. pity.
                  but i hope what i said here can make other more intellegent indian people understand something. at least widden their view and thoughts.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by snower
                    Neo, sounds you are totally brain washed by western propaganda,

                    i think chinese government did the right thing. ok, maybe you never understand what i mean. it's hard for you to understand my thought. pity.
                    but i hope what i said here can make other more intellegent indian people understand something. at least widden their view and thoughts.
                    ok chinese...u think the chinese government did the right thing here too?

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                    This is the video of chinese army shooting civilians from tibet coming to india. out of 77 only 65 made it alive.

                    U are telling me i should understand this? And this is western propaganda?
                    Now go and kiss your communist government for killing innocents. They day your brother, sister or someone else will fall from a bullet , come back to give lectures on how great is ur communist government.
                    I 'll show u a new world!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Neo
                      They day your brother, sister or someone else will fall from a bullet , come back to give lectures on how great is ur communist government.
                      i don't worry about that. becasue the army will do whatever should do to protect national interest. if my brother does not do anything hurting our national interest, they will live a happy life in china. if they does, even i myslef, will not forgive him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by snower
                        i don't worry about that. becasue the army will do whatever should do to protect national interest. if my brother does not do anything hurting our national interest, they will live a happy life in china. if they does, even i myslef, will not forgive him.

                        yes ur the kind who were in hitler's nazi army serving national interest of germany in WW2. i understand now. u showed ur true color. ur not human. just a machine programmed by communism not to feel other's pain.

                        ur national interest is in killing innocent people of tibet and tinnemann square.
                        I 'll show u a new world!

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                        • #42
                          REPLY: IS IT ONLY DEMOCRACY's fault

                          Hi Everybody,
                          I'd like to first state my stance that the problems of india namely;corruption,illiteracy,poor education system and"narrow-minded" youth cannot be wholly blamed on democracy.
                          Yes democracy may seem like an illusion and a power-fight among the elites and hence may cause corruption.But the other reasons for corruption
                          are:
                          1)lowly paid civil servants
                          2) social and political culture of the country(people have to be socialised into beleiving that it is wrong to do so and there are more fruitful ways of creating win-win situations without resorting to corrupt means).
                          3)Income disparity that is only getting larger with the craze over IT and little being done to debvelop the structural deficiencies of the countr to uplift the poor and create jobs meaningful to them.
                          The British education system may seem faulty and irelavent.Several countries like singapore have uundertaken post-colonial reformations in the education system to improvis on the existing British education system. I would think that the CBSE board has done so successfully in India.Even by enabling students to have comprehensive NCERT text books at reasonable rates.
                          Schools,however,lack well-trained primary school teachers.Teacher absentism and poor scholastic infrasturcture are problems that preclude the benifits of a well structured education system.
                          Illiteracy likewise is an sore area of indian demographics because of the folwing reasons:
                          1)mismanagement of resources by the government
                          2)High level of poverty ,compleling children to work instead of study
                          3)social inequality in rural areas.Dalits are still stigmatised in several rural schools .for example,made to sit outsde in the corridor.
                          4)lack of conviction among illiterate parents in the education system and the value of education.
                          And about the problem of "narrow minded" youth..Stereotyping and differentiating is human nature..
                          Last edited by dipticheerath; 11-12-2006, 10:33 PM.

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                          • #43
                            British Did leave us drugs

                            Originally posted by snower
                            frankly, all these things are caused by one thing: your democracy, which is drug the british left you.

                            snower is right. I stand corrected he is not.
                            Last edited by Omni; 11-19-2006, 01:48 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Knowledge as a tool

                              It is strange that such a good topic has been diverted to an angle which was not goint to any answer.
                              It is strange that one person from china comes in and destroys the debate. I request my friends to ignore him and answer the questions which has been asked in the thread.
                              Yes India does suffer from many problems, but it is not due to democracy.
                              Perhaps democracy should be implemented when most of the people are able to understand the meaning of democracy.
                              The leaders are hereby successful in their objective in diverting the attention of the people from the real issues. The castism etc. have become a major issue in India during the elections.
                              The major issues of development are just ignored. Even if they are raised it is just between ours and their areas to intensify the rivalary.
                              I will like to see India where the people are awaken, literate and love to question the decisions taken by the govt.
                              So please make the people educated in true sense.
                              I must add one thing that the socialism has caused much damage to India. Just like communism rather, it is a communism in parts has stopped us to proceed ahead. Here comes the China's reference, they are communist in the name only, they are encouraging the privatisation much before us, perhaps since 70s. It is because of this factor they have progressed ahead. Not due to communism. I shall advise comrades who are ever ready to say Lal salam to shed this ideology and be practical. This idealogy is nothing but fraud as it does not have full answers to any question.
                              Don’t worry, Be happy

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                              • #45
                                Yes I agree the developmental issues must be resurfaced.

                                and just to bring some knowledge into light and if one finds that this is a contradiction feel free to post a message saying this is so. The caste to India were 'casta' is to Portugal. The social organizational system of India was reintroduced by the portugeuse and was called the 'casta' it was then called caste. The original social organizational system of India was different than the latter. If this is true then is this a big issue?

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