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    The whole conflict between India and Pakistan is because the two countries are not united as one India. Why was Pakistan created? Because some fundamentalist Muslim wanted to "protect" Indian Muslims from the Hindu part of India . Why would that make things better? The mass migration to Pakistan started the real feud between Indian Hindus and Muslims. There are over 100 million Muslims in India, and they seem to being living with relative peace with Hindus (besides the ones in Kashmir, in which the Pakistanis are the ones rioting the Muslims there). I really also think there would be no Al Queda if India and Pakistan were one.

    Separating countries based on religion is plain stupid and illogical. Should we separate the Christian part of the US from the Catholic part? Will that solve anything? I don't think so.

    Pakistan isn't the only country that needs to return to its mother India. Bangladesh, Bhutan, and Nepal need to return and the Indian Union must be preserved. United we our strong, separated we will fall or reach no where. Nepal is threatened by the evil communist to the North while Bangladesh is in utter poverty separated from its Indian mother. Bhutan is a monarchy and not a democracy as a result.

    Once the Indian Nations are united, it will be on a better path. Without fear from war, especially from Pakistan will give India a chance to focus on developing himself into a superpower that will rival even the mighty United States and the great European Union.
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    Yes, It will do better for all 5 Coutries
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    No, Too Difficult
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    Maybe, It might work
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    I agree with you who will do the efforts
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    • #3
      I think the question is not put correctly...
      keeping in mind the prespective of people in those countries as well.. I would have rather asked:-

      Should Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, and Bhutan form a Union like the E.U?

      1. YES - Good idea
      2. NO - strict no no
      3. Maybe - Not sure
      4. - I think its good idea but wont work


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      ANYWAYS, I've voted - No, Too Difficult .... i dont think having one country will be any benefitial to INDIA. however, it might benefit everyone else.

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      • #4
        In Europe you often can read about violent conflicts between hindus and muslims. Further a student from here in Germany told that it is even common, when they fight each other. Is it true?

        And relating to E.U.:
        The E.U. contains also a lot of possibilities to cause disputes, sure no heavy violent disputes yet. Social descends and inner emigration are a source for ethnic conflicts which is better not underestimated.
        It would be another subject, if there would be only a economical union between the five nations, but I don't think it would solve the problems between the muslims and hindus.

        Further I don't understand how a union can appease the conflicts. Can you tell me?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vikram
          I think the question is not put correctly...
          keeping in mind the prespective of people in those countries as well.. I would have rather asked:-

          Should Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, and Bhutan form a Union like the E.U?

          1. YES - Good idea
          2. NO - strict no no
          3. Maybe - Not sure
          4. - I think its good idea but wont work


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          ANYWAYS, I've voted - No, Too Difficult .... i dont think having one country will be any benefitial to INDIA. however, it might benefit everyone else.

          No, I think these countries should unite into one country, not a single economical unit. I think those countries that used to be part of India, should be individual states, but under one federal rule. I personally don't think one econmical unit will do too much, but it is a start.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Morris
            In Europe you often can read about violent conflicts between hindus and muslims. Further a student from here in Germany told that it is even common, when they fight each other. Is it true?

            And relating to E.U.:
            The E.U. contains also a lot of possibilities to cause disputes, sure no heavy violent disputes yet. Social descends and inner emigration are a source for ethnic conflicts which is better not underestimated.
            It would be another subject, if there would be only a economical union between the five nations, but I don't think it would solve the problems between the muslims and hindus.

            Further I don't understand how a union can appease the conflicts. Can you tell me?
            Yes it is common and I think the reason is because Muslims and Hindu are distinguished as separate people. Before India was separated into two states, the Muslims lived along side the Hindus and sort of blended in the countries. Though there was conflict, there was unity. One India, not two Indias.

            When the two states separated into two different countries, the biggest mass migration of all time took place. Muslims now became distinguished as a different race of people and because the union went away both countries developed and attitude of "us vs them" when in fact they belong to the same nationality. As a result, both countries hav't been able to fully concentrate their efforts into reducing poverty in both nations and rapid industrialization. India today is industrializing, but very slowly. Because of this conflict on the boarders created around 50 years earlier, no nation can concentrate their efforts into becoming a major world power. In any case, there are over 100 million Muslims in India, why aren't they all a separate country.

            I believe if the nations unite, Hindus will migrate back to Pakistan, and Muslims will migrate back to India, and the Hindu and Muslims population will blend together. No, that doesn't mean conflict will stop, but then again can conflict ever stop between humans who believe different things? Separating people on what they think, believe, or follow will achieve nothing, only more separation and conflict. Not too mention the whole "us vs them" mentality.

            A perfect example is the United States. The United States is a country all nations so follow as an example. Do you think the US would have been as might as it is today if the South won the civil war and became two separate nation states? Division between people who live so close to each other so never occur. Independent states, like America's 50 states is what Pakistan and Bangladesh should turn into. I also think that is how Europe should go to, unite as one country but with each individual province a set amount of powers (ie a France and Germany separate states, but in the same country like California and Texas separates states, but in the same country). There shouldn't be over 200 countries like it is now, there should be only about 10-20 counties, no more than 10 million sq. kilometers.

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            • #7
              Very noble idea. But what do you say about Nepal, a Hindu kingdom, that sometimes seems to hate India's guts out, because it thinks we act as a big-brother.

              In my opinion, India is quite okay in its present form because our smaller neighbours consider us to be a meddling big-brother, a bully.

              The idea about a more united and strong South Asia is very forward looking. But I think it needs moving towards gradually, starting from an economic union/ free trade zone etc.

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              • #8
                Forgot to mention Sri lanka too .

                I think Nepal should understand the India has been protecting them for years, espeically against those evil Chinese communist. They owe us a lot. The least they can do us unite.

                They will unite! If someone does not unite the Indian Nations, I will go after it myself and become in power. I have connections in Banglore, I'm sure my gangsta uncle can provide me with some easy government access.

                Ash Nash Dan Rictadoon!

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                • #9
                  As it is we are plenty overcrowded.
                  I suggest we be just good neighbors.
                  We can have the occasional high tea with them in fancy restaurants but there is no need to call them home for dinner and drinks.

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                  • #10
                    "Should we separate the Christian part of the US from the Catholic part?"

                    - Catholics are Christians.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by baboons_in_the_night
                      As it is we are plenty overcrowded.
                      I suggest we be just good neighbors.
                      We can have the occasional high tea with them in fancy restaurants but there is no need to call them home for dinner and drinks.
                      There is no peace! The Pakistanis for example will never want peace, and that rebel country is doing nothing but bad for India. Trying to steal Kashmir from us, when in fact we the ones who defended it from the Chinese! We will never become buddy buddy until they return their mother country: India!

                      Ash Nash Dan Rictadoon


                      Originally posted by thamonindew
                      "Should we separate the Christian part of the US from the Catholic part?"

                      - Catholics are Christians.
                      I mean protestant and catholic .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Silverbackman
                        There is no peace! The Pakistanis for example will never want peace, and that rebel country is doing nothing but bad for India. Trying to steal Kashmir from us, when in fact we the ones who defended it from the Chinese! We will never become buddy buddy until they return their mother country: India!

                        Dude how old are you?
                        your notions are childish and naive. I hope there is more serious talks going on in this forum

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Guju_Gangster
                          Dude how old are you?
                          your notions are childish and naive. I hope there is more serious talks going on in this forum
                          You an idiot if you cannot see the vision here. Do you know anything about war against Kashmir by China decades ago? India defended it not Pakistan. Pakistan should be state of India, not a different country.

                          Just imagine the Bharat Republic superpower!

                          You are nothing but a socialist anarchist radical who should be silenced .

                          Ash Nash Dan Rictadoon!

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                          • #14
                            So first Silverbakcman suggests India split into nation-states and now he talks of Asian geopolitics. Buddy, make up your mind! Geopolitics is an interesting subject. But I must oppose any move to integrate former Indian kingdoms into the mainland of India. I agree with economic and military co-operation, but a strict no-no for joining in terms of geography. Infact we should go one step further. We must have a Eurasian union(only economic and military co-opertaion). This will oppose the Zionist triangle which consists of Israel, USA and the UK.
                            Last edited by megrisoft; 12-06-2005, 09:41 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Yes it is common and I think the reason is because Muslims and Hindu are distinguished as separate people. Before India was separated into two states, the Muslims lived along side the Hindus and sort of blended in the countries. Though there was conflict, there was unity. One India, not two Indias.
                              First of all why do you guys forget these things. Right now still Hindus and Muslims live together in India peacefully. India has more Muslims then Pakistan does. India is a complete country still now. Even now Muslims live alongside with Hindus. 12 religions and 24 tribal religions live peacefully in India.

                              One more thing I won't like Pakistan and Bangladesh and Sri Lanka being part of India again. Nepal, Bhutan and maldives are ok but not the other 3 countries.
                              REasons

                              Pakistan - THey are too violent. They will degrade the name of India. Poverty rate is high. Women's are not treaten properly. For nothing there would be more fight. Now terrorist can get into India without no visa and barriers. There's no proof that they will stop terrorism after merging with India. They are really underdeveloped. THey are not that well civilized.

                              Bangladesh - They are really uneducated and not that civilized. poverty rate - 50%, unemployment - 40%. They will come into India and increase the burden.

                              Sri Lanka - Simply not acceptable. Really bad political condition. Not acceptable. Low standard of living. Bad condition. Fighting. Common thing. All these 3 countries have fighting going on which we won't accept. These countries will put an extra burden.

                              Be happy with what diversity we have. We have lots of Muslims, we don't need them from Pakistan and Bangladesh. we have no proof that they will stop doing terrorism. Please don't think of getting these countries together. Now Nepal, Bhutan and Maldives are ok.

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