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    Last edited by King Tejpreet; 06-15-2010, 02:25 PM.

  • #2
    Are you trying to challenge evolution? You might as well save your energy. It is pointless to try to disprove evolution because evolution is the fundamental explanation for the origin of life in science. It is basically the General Relativity of biology.

    Instead you should try to fit evolution within your beliefs (though there are flaws here too). The Bible also says that the world is flat and the center of the universe, but you don't see Christians caring about this anymore. In the same way you shouldn't care about evolution. Because it really makes Christianity or ANY religion look stupid when you try to deny science.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
      Dear Silverbackman or (whatever your real name is)

      First of all, it makes a bad sense of you to use the word ‘Stupid’ for Christ Jesus, when you have not identified yourself (you have not signed your real name and address while making the comment). There is no need to tell you that Jesus is regarded and addressed as "Lord" in all First World Nations including the G-8 Nations.

      Insofar as your argument (if any) is concerned, it is a matter of pity that you have not been able to realise that our world is created by God. You should note that even though scientists claim that life originated on earth long time back under certain special environmental conditions prevalent at that time, they have not been able to create any life under test conditions similar to one supposedly prevalent naturally.

      You should note that in spite of vast advancement of science, it has failed to answer basic questions. For instance, science describes in detail HOW a human baby develops from a single cell. It describes HOW the cell multiplies and HOW some cells differentiate into specialised cells, say muscle cells. But the science has failed to answer WHY the said cells differentiate into muscle cells and not into any other cells. This can be explained only by the Laws of Nature, set by God.

      Laws of Nature determine not only the behaviour of living organisms, but the character (or qualities) of all physical matter and radiation found in the Physical Universe. The study of this by Man is called Science. To enable man for this study, human brain has been created (under Laws of Nature) with an inborn inquest for that knowledge which can be argued and proved by reasoning and/or demonstration. Therefore, by his study of the qualities of physical matter and radiation, Man has been able to apply that knowledge to develop technology. It is highly ironical that by the use of this technology, Man is challenging the very existence of God !



      [Your comments on Holy Bible are beyond the scope of this forum. If you want to understand Holy Bible, you will have to come to my church or any other On-Line Church or an On-Land Church near you. But I don’t think that will suit your personality.]
      lol, you have A LOT of reading to do. Why not start here?;







      And can you explain to me the difference between Zeus, Shiva, and Yahweh?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
        Dear Scientist or Hippie (whatever you are),


        I have put a very simple question on evolution.

        If you don’t know the answer, just keep quite.

        I have not asked the forum members where to get the study material for Evolution of Life on Earth.

        And, I do not get the point as to why you are asking me about Greek and Hindu mythological figures?

        What does Hinduism or Judaism has to do with Evolution?

        Also, take care not to address me as lol in future! Unlike you I have disclosed my identity.

        And regarding the other two questions I have raised in my first counter-reply to your non-sense reply, you have not been able to come up with anything intellectual on them as well?

        I think you should spend your time posting replies at Entertainment & Recreational Section of this Forum.
        lol = laugh out loud. How long have you been on the internet? That is just internet talk......surely someone as enlightened as yourself should know that.

        You don't have a basic grasp of evolution (or biology or science for that matter) to begin with, which is why I provided you links. They explain everything you try to address. I doubt you'll listen to me, but I'll address a couple of your points personally.

        BTW, what does being a hippie have to do with anything? I'm curious why you chose that label......are hippies your enemies? Though I'm not a hippy and have nothing against them, I don't see what derogatory use calling me a hippy serves.

        Insofar as your argument (if any) is concerned, it is a matter of pity that you have not been able to realise that our world is created by God. You should note that even though scientists claim that life originated on earth long time back under certain special environmental conditions prevalent at that time, they have not been able to create any life under test conditions similar to one supposedly prevalent naturally.
        What does a mythological being like "God" have to do with science? You obviously don't even understand what science is to begin with. God has no place in science. The concept of a "god" itself is a supernatural concept that has no basis in reality but rather in faith. Trying to use the god argument doesn't make much sense as it is irrelevant.

        Now then, when you’re trying to study a series of events that span millions or even billions of years it is nearly impossible to know – exactly – what happened from one moment to the next all the way from inorganic chemicals all the way to modern Man. For instance there are a couple dozen different chemical combinations that will result in inorganic chemicals forming amino acids but we have no idea which combination was seminal in early life on Earth. For all we know they all were. We have various theories as to what happened afterwards. Gradualism and Punctuated Equilibrium represent two of the most popular ways of thinking about how life transitions from early to modern life forms. I personally prefer a hybrid of the two. The question is not – if – Evolution happened it is a question of – how - it happened and thus why we call it a “theory.” In point of fact Evolution isn’t about a single theory but an amalgam of several hundred that range from basic inorganic chemistry you could do in your garage to unraveling the mysteries of DNA to Geology to Botany and across the entire scientific spectrum. Every science there is supports Evolution.

        All you are trying to do is point at the fuzzy area scientists don't understand and use that as your "proof" that evolution is false. It doesn't work that way. You can do the exact same thing with the theory of general relativity and say that we have no idea where gravity originated from the big bang and its connections to the other forces, but it doesn't make the theory false.

        The only reason why you (and all anti-evolution folks) are trying to argue with the science of evolution is because you think it contradicts your religious beliefs. But remember, nearly every culture and society has their own creation stories and myths. Do you honestly think your belief and mythologies have any more validity than say a particular West African tribe that believes we were created from ant dung? You just follow a creation myth by a Middle Eastern herding tribe. That isn't science's fault.

        You might as well try to fit evolution in your beliefs....because the Bible says the world is flat and the center of the universe numerous times. Oh and let's not forget rainbows.....your mythological book says that rainbows are a result of a worldwide flood that never happened, when in fact rainbows are just a form of visible light arranged in a certain way. Why don't you complain about these?

        You should note that in spite of vast advancement of science, it has failed to answer basic questions. For instance, science describes in detail HOW a human baby develops from a single cell. It describes HOW the cell multiplies and HOW some cells differentiate into specialised cells, say muscle cells. But the science has failed to answer WHY the said cells differentiate into muscle cells and not into any other cells. This can be explained only by the Laws of Nature, set by God.
        Actually its something called stem cells that can become any cell at any time. It seems like you have a minor grasp of fetus development but don't seem to understand that cells don't differentiate "randomly".

        But let's say science didn't have the answer. How does it prove any of your beliefs? Just because we don't know something yet doesn't mean God, Zeus, or whatever deity did something. Your logic is beyond flawed.....it makes absolutely no sense.

        What you are basically doing is applying the "god of the gaps" principle, saying that whatever we don't know must be from god. What are you going to do when we figure out the principles of abiogenises? Are you just going to move on to some other random unknown fact at the moment until we find that out?

        Laws of Nature determine not only the behaviour of living organisms, but the character (or qualities) of all physical matter and radiation found in the Physical Universe. The study of this by Man is called Science. To enable man for this study, human brain has been created (under Laws of Nature) with an inborn inquest for that knowledge which can be argued and proved by reasoning and/or demonstration. Therefore, by his study of the qualities of physical matter and radiation, Man has been able to apply that knowledge to develop technology. It is highly ironical that by the use of this technology, Man is challenging the very existence of God !
        And yet you believe in miracles that defy the laws of nature. Like your savior's mythological trick of turning water into wine and ascending into a realm beyond the senses.

        Science is the empirical study of the natural world.....we gain our data from our 5 senses. There is absolutely no physical evidence for the existence of god. There is no more evidence for the existence of "God" than the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Nor is there more evidence for your deity Yahweh than Zeus, Shiva, or any other deity.

        [Your comments on Holy Bible are beyond the scope of this forum. If you want to understand Holy Bible, you will have to come to my church or any other On-Line Church or an On-Land Church near you. But I don’t think that will suit your personality.]
        Actually, despite not being a pastor I probably know the Bible more than you or most other Christians that have read the Bible hundreds of times. Why? Because I read the Bible the way it should be read.....as mythology. It has some stories based on historical events but a lot of it is fiction too (such as the supernatural miracles).

        It's the same with the Iliad and the Odyssey. The stories in these books are based off real events but with a supernatural element attached to it in order to explain certain phenomenon. The same type of mythology is found in civilizations and cultures all over the world.

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        • #5
          Bible means love

          Hi
          I don't know much about Evolution. But I don't believe in god. Science helps human being. God principle makes people to look each other enemies. I am not a scientist. I am an ordinary man looking for methods of making money. Money for good reasons. Without money nobody can survive in this world. Even Mr.Dr.King. Every living nature is working hard to live. We should also do the same without doing any harm to others. In Bible the same is explained in different stories. Mr.Dr.King did not understand this simple theory of living nature. I think he is trying to pull more people to his church to make his living comfortable in the name of god as Jesus did to make the foolish people believe his words. This is not the mistake of Jesus. He is an intelligent who did know what to do to make the people believe him and follow his words. Actually Jesus was killed by People like Dr. King who are very arrogant on their beliefs. If Jesus born again in this world in Haryana in some other name, Mr.Dr. King (The priest of Great Church) will order the poor people to kill him by the name of god.

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          • #6
            What's wrong with you Tejpreet? You want to convert people to christianity by calling them primitive and backward while exalting the superiority of Europe. Buddy, Jesus wasn't a European, he was Asian (middle-eastern). So stop corrupting the name of Jesus and god for your derogatory cultural chauvinism here. We don't need you to show us religion. India is THE center point of religion and spirituality and we already respect all religions and gods without indulging in cultural name calling.
            Last edited by observer; 04-30-2007, 07:22 PM.

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            • #7
              I am not an Idiot but you

              Money makes many thing in this world. Not only food and sex.
              Have you educated any poor kid by your hard earned money without any kind of intention. If you did so, you will realize the truth of bible. Don't spread bible. You follow that. Stop get angry. This is against bible. Don't call me again an Idiot. May be people will call you an foolish idiot after they realized what is your real intention is. Don't convert the people to follow Christ, instead convert their mind to lead them in a right path. Teach the poor and uneducated people the science of living. Teach them how to eat, how to maintain their health, how to lead their family without any trouble. God can not come and teach these things to the poor. Only people like you can do these things. I am not making money for my food and having sex. I have more than enough for that. All the money I make on my website goes to one Orphan home and Home for Aged people. I am doing this on my free time. You know how hard I am working every day. Again I am telling you. Help the poor who don't know why they are living in poverty. Help the poor to realize what science can do to make their life happy.
              If you don't realize these simple concepts, I hope you are in mental trouble. Better consult a psychiatrist.
              First of all, stop collecting money on your website. You are using Paypal. You can not open an Paypal account without having a US bank account. I don't understand how you are doing all these things. I will talk to my friends in Haryana to know more about you. Don't think you are intelligent and everybody else are idiots.
              Last edited by bizaway; 05-01-2007, 12:30 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                Who the stupid idiot has posted this reply? On one hand, people are living highly civilised life in Europe; on the other we have animals in Asia who do not even know how to address a reply. You have been called animal because all you know is to make money in order to eat food and have sex.


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                Nice to see that such words come from the mouth of a God s man. Nice to know that whats common sense for u is wise sense for indians. Nice to know that europeans are civilized and asians are animals.

                Nice to know that shiva is a crap while jesus christ is a unquestionable reality. Well if thats so why do we asians need bible at all. If all that u say, is what bible says then i call ur jesus a bigot, your bible a miserable book fit only to be dumbed in a muncipal dustbin.

                And what r u doing here on the India forum. Go fuck yourself on a european forum.

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                • #9
                  I read in todays newspaper that some people from Vishwa hindu parishad (V.H.P.) beat up the pastors in agra and jaipur recently. I felt low and depressed after reading the story.

                  But now after reading ur posts i am forced to think that may be they were right. IF there are pastors and preists like u who go to all lengths to convert people, you deserve to be beaten up and insulted.

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                  • #10
                    By this post of mine, I am only trying to enlighten people about the reality of God. I am only doing the job left by Lord Jesus for missionaries like me to complete. India, being a secular state, I have all legal rights to do so.
                    Yes that's all fine but you need an attitude readjustment in respecting other cultures and peoples and not call them primitive. I wouldn't want to hear about any religion from a missionary like you.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                      Very well, Rohit. The language (your last line) you have used itself shows how civilised you are. Like Bizaway, you too don’t know how to address a reply. You do not know what to say, where to say and how to say. And you claim yourself a human (with European Common-Sense) ! .
                      When i call u r jesus a bigot and bible a crap it hurts u so much. Likewise it hurts others when u call a entire nation uncivilized and lacking common sense. But u wont realise that. In any case i dont care what are ur opinions about me. i dont need a certificate from u as i have said earlier. I dont need to claim my humanity to someone. But u will have to give a lot of explanatoins about ur humanity to a lot of people as it is already evident from how many supporters u have on this forum.

                      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                      By the way, you will not be able to dump anything in the municipal dustbin if IMF gets strict on its loan’s repayment.
                      Oh really?? here speaks the wise man from the era of jesus christ. Can u please check the figures on how much india owes to IMF?? Or is it that India is a creditor to IMF since 2003. Well ur common sense is my wise sense so i can not dare to correct u. So sir, since i am a uncivilized man from a poor country like india i humbly request u to check u data and update ur wise sense.




                      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                      Just to make it clear, I am not a European; I am Indian. Because of people like Bizaway and you, I am ashamed to be an Indian.
                      You are right here. You should be ashamed that u r an Indian. Not because of bizaway or me. But because of the fact that ur mentally a slave to the english.

                      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                      You are denying the truth even though you have not been able to argue on any of my points. Don’t you find it a little funny?
                      On the contrary u didnt answer any of the questions raise by me.


                      Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                      I know what to say, where to say and how to say. This is an open forum and unidentified people are posting comments targeted to disrupt me from spreading the Word of God. These people may be associated with Hindu or Islamic fundamentalist organisations. Hence, being nice to them will not work unless they identify themselves.
                      For u r kind information i am not associated with any fundamentalist organisation neither do i believe in any religion in particular. But u sure sound like a fundamentalist christian.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                        I have just stated that Punjabi people need to move forward towards civilisation.
                        Yeah, the statement of lacking common-sense came because smart people like you, who should instead educate others, are unnecessarily creating nuisance here. .
                        What u stated and what u meant is here for everyone to read and judge. And any one who disagrees with your ideas is a nuisance value for u. Because the lesser the no of supporters the lesser the chairty funds for you. Afterall u r bread and butter comes from your religion


                        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                        Regarding the supporters, I do not need them here. I shall be able to address all your arguments, don’t worry. .
                        YA. You are right. If someday ur dream comes true and christianity takes over the world. But trust me neither the world will become dar ul islam nor dar ul christan as long as people like me r alive.


                        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                        Oh, Lord Jesus! I am so out of my mind. I didn’t realise I am talking with a wise Indian man (or woman, whatever you are) who believes all that appears in the media; without applying his (or her, if you are a woman) brain. Yet, you say you have common-sense.
                        Stunt Media prevalent in India and other Third World countries is beyond the scope of present discussion.
                        Neither I have the time nor I feel the need to start a new thread for its discussion. Suffixes it to say here that even the books which medical students study in India are funded by the British Government. (This I can confirm because I have passed M.B.B.S.) Do you get the picture? .
                        Wow thats a classic from you. According to u asians and africans are uncivilized people, they lack dressing sense, british fund them and they survive on their alms, the language they speak is inferior to english language, the religion they practise will take them to hell. So mr. tejpreet why did u choose a indian name?? Why ru living here on such a dirty land?? Are u really so worried about asians and africans that u have made ur life hell for gullible people like us??

                        By the way i have freinds who have done mbbs. They never told me that british govt send them the books. But for ur wise brain check the IMF website to confirm that india lends to IMF and dont borrow from it anymore. And it is so since the year 2003. But may be u were reading sermons in the church so u didnt update ur wise sense. Never mind do it now.

                        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                        I am not a slave to anybody. I appreciate good ideas from wherever they originate in the world. I do not understand why Indians are so much against Britons.
                        Good for you if u do that. But i guess according to u all the good ideas in the world originate from The Bible. And we indians are not against british but we will sure become anti britons if they keep sending more and more people like u here.

                        Originally posted by King Tejpreet
                        True, I am Christian missionary.
                        Good u finally accepted that ur a fundamentalist. So are so many mullas who wage jehad on innocent people. And u both claim that only u know the path to God. You both claim that yours is the only true God. You both try hard and go to any length to convert people. And u both fight the most amongst yourselves. Well i have no problem with what u believe or do. As long as u do not enter our territory and do not try to mess with our lives. You try that and there will be more VHPs coming to ur houses. Trust me.

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                        • #13
                          Let him shout to lord alone.

                          This guy is fundamentalist. As I told in my previous posts, this guy needs a real psycological treatment. From the beginning he tries to show, he is the best. I saw many people like him in my life. Nobody can change the behaviour of this kind of people. Nowadays the number of priests are increasing. Actually they are making huge money in diffferent ways. In Tamilnadu one priest have property worth of many crores. This guy posting here to make more people visit his website. Making money in the name of God is the only intention of this guy. Look at his name . His Holyness Dr.(King) Tejpreet.
                          The name itself shows that he is completely against bible. He never said any word from the bible in this thread. All his intention is to confuse the people to follow him. Not to follow the Bible.
                          I know the Bible better than you, Mr.King. I stopped reading the bible because of people like you who are trying to cheat the poor people. I know many guys who hold the bible in their hand all the time and not follow anything from that. This applieas to all the religion. Nobody is perfect in this world. So, stop telling christianity is the best religion in this world. First of all you remove the "His Higness Dr.King" from your name and post your ideas about Jesus and Evolution here in this Thread.
                          ( I say to everybody. Don't follow the god principle. It will lead you to a world where you can not see the real joy. It makes you a slave. You will have to follow the words of people like Dr.King. Use your own mind and follow the science of living. Make money to enjoy your life)
                          Last edited by bizaway; 05-03-2007, 05:14 PM.

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                          • #14
                            King Tejpreet is such a bigoted, India hating (infact all non-Christian, developing world hating) person. If all the christian missionaries in India are like this then I will have to change my opinion about them which is that they help poor and downtrodden people. Missionaries like king Tejpreet are full of rude pompousness and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely in India while abusing its people and culture.

                            King Tejpreet you talked of Sati. Your friend missionaries burned people at stake for refusing to convert to Christianity in goa (Goa inquisition.) Christians in history have been extremely cruel. It was the Christian Europeans who carried out the worst forms of genocide in North America and slavery in Africa. Mr. Tejpreet learn true civilization and culture from Indians who believe in non-violence as a principle and don't believe in even hurting animals. That's why they are vegetarians.

                            And I don't believe that you are an Indian king Tejpreet because you're so clueless about India and Indians. At best you are a foreign born person of Indian origin.

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                            • #15
                              Christianity is responsible for more death and backwardness than any other ideology (not just religion) in history. It was Christianity that plunged the advanced Greco-Roman world into a superstitious dark age with little to no science or technology. Modern anti-semitism has its origins in medieval and colonial Christianity (Hitler was Christian). It was Christians who invaded the Middle East under their "crusades". It was Christianity that caused the inquisition. It was Christianity that led to burnings of scientists, alternative medicine practitioners, or anyone that thought that the Earth isn't the center of the universe. It was Christianity that led to the annihilation of dozens of Native American civilizations. It was Christianity that destroyed the erotic aspects of Indian civilization.

                              And worst of all for Indians:

                              It was Christians that sacked the wealth of the most wealthiest region (India) in history and part of the reason why India is poor today. Even Muslims have never done this.

                              The only other ideology to come close to Christianity in backwardness and cruelty is Communism......but communism did its harm only in the 20th century. Christianity has been doing it for over 1,500 years!

                              Islam has done some bad stuff in the past, but most of it occurred in the last 100 years (and it was mainly in response to European and Israeli Imperialism). And when Islam was started in the Middle Ages it brought the Middle East into a scientific advanced age, unlike what Christianity did to Europe. So even Islam wasn't all that bad.

                              When Muslim Mughals invaded India they annexed it as an equal part of the empire. Christian Britain treated India like a subject slave state and sacked all its wealth.

                              Is there any ideology in history that comes close to the damage of Christianity?
                              Last edited by Silverbackman; 05-04-2007, 08:20 AM.

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